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In reply to Systemd is not Magic Security Dust

Reader Wrzi on 2016-11-10 at 08:57:

Save for Slackware, every mainstream and/or popular distribution accepted systemd. Linus Torvalds himself is only able to - or willing to - grumble about the binary logs and ignores both the users' screams and the rest of the catastrophes systemd creates.

For now, save for RedHat stuff (RHEL, CentOS, Fedora) we can get rid of systemd manually, but for how long? What if the softwares will begin to require systemd? Because of stupidity, or because if they don't support systemd, then their software won't run properly or won't run at all. GNOME3, one of the most used desktop environments already depends on systemd and the trend will continue. (And to make it worse, the package maintainers link systemd as dependency even for programs/libraries actually not depending on systemd, but by this they prevent you to install the package without installing systemd.) Like with PulseAudio. Tons of Linux software depends on that unnecessary and bloated layer over OSS/ALSA. And when most of the Linux software will require systemd, then the entire Linux ecosystem will depend on systemd and we will not have the choice to ditch systemd, but to accept it and let it taking over our systems or moving to some BSD or Solaris (or whatever you can find).

Whatever Poettering creates is fundamentally broken and yet, whatever he creates, will be accepted as a quasi-standard in the Linux world. I do not want to create CT-s here, i am merely stating some facts. But i would not be surprised, when the events i mentioned above shall happen, then RH will close the sources of systemd. And the users will have the illusion, that they have an open source OS and they running open source programs, but in reality, they have a blackbox between the two, what can do anything, what it's creators want.

It seems to me, that whoever who try to oppose systemd is waging a losing war. Linux is lost. It's much less painful, to slowly switch to another UNIX step by step now, than do it instantly when systemd ultimately conquered Linux.

Sorry for pouring this much bullshit here.


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